once again in an update here on house of hate: thereâ€™s going to be a lot of bitching about Americans and/or my dislike for them. this one, i admit, is inspired by something i originally assumed to be a joke; when i first saw the link’s title, before i saw anything else about it, i assumed it was another hilarious article from an actual comedy website like the Onion. but you know what they say about the word “assume” … and if you don’t, well, let’s just say it’s a combination of a sad, terrible pun and a reflection on the poor decision you made when you assumed something in the first place.
Audiences experience ‘Avatar’ blues
the best and most American thing about this picture: some fat dude eating a pizza in the theater. maybe i just don’t ever go to theaters that sell you pizzas?
now, i’m not going to waste any time ranting about Avatar. it’s made a ridiculous amount of money; it doesn’t deserve to at all due to the quality of the writing and plot, except for the fact that it does because it’s obviously put asses in the seats; it’s got the whole messy Dances-With-Wolves/Pocahontas thing going on … in summation, it’s clearly a wildly profitable mess. i will probably never see it and that’s all well and good. we’re not here to complain about the film, not really. we’re here for this:
James Cameron’s completely immersive spectacle “Avatar” may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.
stop the fucking boat, because i need to get off. “experienced depression and suicidal thoughts” after seeing the beauty of the fictional world in the film? this is absolutely terrible.
brief tangent: this is, in fact, reminiscent of an article i mocked YEARS ago (we’re talking 2002 or so, and i know the post i’m referring to isn’t on the website anymore) that talked about a woman who was waiting in line for tickets to Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones … who was renaming herself “Darth Maul” because, and i’m paraphrasing here, “Darth Maul gives me the strength to live my life” … and who was spending thousands of dollars on a Darth Maul costume … and who was able to wait for tickets because she was UNEMPLOYED. this Avatar article reminds me of that SW:AOTC article because i am torn between “this person or person’s sentiments should NEVER be celebrated in print” and “if i was there to do a story about waiting in line for SW:AOTC or watching Avatar, and someone said some ridiculous shit to ME like this, i would damn sure write about it.”
but back to the matter at hand:
On the fan forum site “Avatar Forums,” a topic thread entitled “Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible,” has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie.
now, “more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope” isn’t really a large number. it could be one dude who’s bummed out and one dude trying to help him talking for the whole 1001 posts. but i still remain disgusted.
“I wasn’t depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ,” Baghdassarian said. “But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don’t have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed.”
i just have two brief points to make here: a) it didn’t show something we don’t have on Earth, because here on Earth we DO have science-fiction movies that are CLEARLY fictitious; and b) no, we could not “be living in a completely different world” when that world is a FICTIONAL one with, oh, let’s single out the dragons. this is not some “we could be living in a completely different world where there is no fear and no hate” hippie bullshit, which is highly improbably but TECHNICALLY possible (like communism). no, this is “never did and never will” exist kind of world.
ever since i went to see ‘Godfather Part II’ i have been depressed … i can’t stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers i got from it
A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film. “That’s all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about ‘Avatar.’ I guess that helps. It’s so hard I can’t force myself to think that it’s just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na’vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie,” Elequin posted.
this guy… this guy is describing this film as if it was a beautiful, smart woman whom he had a loving relationship with, and that relationship just ended. but we’re not talking about that; we’re talking about a 162-minute movie. you do not need a rebound movie! hell, it’s not even like this guy just watched the Godfather Part II and thought “wow, i’ll never see another gangster movie as good,” and now just watches Goodfellas and Casino with an empty heart, which is a creepy but VALID analogy. he’s this broken up about some shitty sci-fi romp!
A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site “Naviblue” that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie. “Ever since I went to see ‘Avatar’ I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na’vi made me want to be one of them. I can’t stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it,” Mike posted. “I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in ‘Avatar.’ “
this guy… this guy makes me wonder if it’s wrong of me to hope that he DOES attempt suicide in an effort to be “rebirthed in Pandora.” look, Mike, you’re supposed to be this depressed over unrequited love or a traumatic loss or some sort of life-long failure (like, your dream is to be a banker, but you’ve never managed to live this probably-unreasonable-but-TECHNICALLY-possible dream, so suicide becomes a sweet release), not because you cannot be a fictional blue cat-alien of some sort. this is not how this depression game works!
Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality.
this is the part of the article i DO understand, because after reading the above, i am feeling at least the former very strongly.
Cameron’s movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth’s resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 10-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na’vi. In their race to mine for Pandora’s resources, the humans clash with the Na’vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia.
here are some brief reasons why one should know this “Pandora” is not a beautiful dream world it’s reasonable to be obsessed with:
–beautiful dream worlds don’t have shitty names for their materials like “unobtanium”;
–beautiful dream worlds don’t have shitty names for themselves like “Pandora”;
–beautiful dream worlds should have a reasonable back story for why “dinosaur-like creatures” are mixing freely with the equivalent of humans on this world, which i will never really know because i won’t watch this film, except that i DO know Cameron didn’t bother with this.
when i woke up this morning after watching Star Wars for the first time yesterday, the world seemed … gray. it was like my whole life, everything i’ve done and worked for, lost its meaning
Ivar Hill posts to the “Avatar” forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-“Avatar” depression after he first saw the film earlier this month. “When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed … gray. It was like my whole life, everything I’ve done and worked for, lost its meaning,” Hill wrote on the forum. “It just seems so … meaningless. I still don’t really see any reason to keep … doing things at all. I live in a dying world.”
this guy… THIS GUY BETTER BE AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD CHILD. because there’s no other reason for such a reaction. and here’s another question: did these Avatar fans never see another sci-fi film that took their breath away? did they not watch a Star Wars film, get swept up in the magic, and wander around their home aimlessly because their lives lost meaning? actually, i think i know a bunch of Star Wars fans like that, and here at the house of hate, we thrive on cheap jokes at their expense.
Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality. “One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality,” Hill said.
i really, really want to go back to my earlier comment wherein i imply that these fans are making me “depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world” at this point.
Cameron’s special effects masterpiece is very lifelike, and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie’s 2Â½-hour running time, which only lends to the separation anxiety some individuals experience when they depart the movie theater.
“essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora.” yes, this is how movies work. it’s not a new development.
“Virtual life is not real life and it never will be, but this is the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far,” said Dr. Stephan Quentzel, psychiatrist and Medical Director for the Louis Armstrong Center for Music and Medicine at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. “It has taken the best of our technology to create this virtual world and real life will never be as utopian as it seems onscreen. It makes real life seem more imperfect.”
it takes a psychiatrist and medical director to tell me that a vastly-expensive sci-fi movie made in 2010 by a director who, if nothing else, is well-known for his love of and devotion to high-quality special effects is “the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far?” this is what we call a “obvious fact.” more to the point: why is the psychiatrist not immediately weighing in with “these fucking Avatar fans are fucking CRAZY” or something alone those lines? don’t validate their feelings!
Stephen Lang as Stonewall Jackson in Gods & Generals. i KNEW there was a reason i hated this guy
Fans of the movie may find actor Stephen Lang, who plays the villainous Col. Miles Quaritch in the film, an enemy of the Na’vi people and their sacred ground, an unlikely sympathizer. But Lang says he can understand the connection people are feeling with the movie.
why … why would they find him “an unlikely sympathizer?” he is not the actual villain he plays in the movie! Col. Miles Quaritch is not real! the corporation in the movie he supports is not real! for crying out loud, AVATAR IS NOT REAL!
“Pandora is a pristine world and there is the synergy between all of the creatures of the planet and I think that strikes a deep chord within people that has a wishfulness and a wistfulness to it,” Lang said. “James Cameron had the technical resources to go along with this incredibly fertile imagination of his and his dream is built out of the same things that other peoples’ dreams are made of.”
you know, i don’t think this quote has anything to do with the article. it’s almost like the author took a random quote from Lang discussing the project he’d worked on and threw it into the article as if his praising description of Cameron’s film was somehow agreeing with and/or justifying the statements of these crazy fans. maybe i’m wrong. maybe Lang does completely sympathize with these … fans. but i have suspicions here.
The bright side is that for Hill and others like him — who became dissatisfied with their own lives and with our imperfect world after enjoying the fictional creation of James Cameron — becoming a part of a community of like-minded people on an online forum has helped them emerge from the darkness. “After discussing on the forums for a while now, my depression is beginning to fade away. Having taken a part in many discussions concerning all this has really, really helped me,” Hill said. “Before, I had lost the reason to keep on living — but now it feels like these feelings are gradually being replaced with others.”
ah, how did i know that the INTERNET would somehow allow a collective of miscreants to band together for moral support? all i know is that it’s a moral certainty that these Na’vi-lovers will be covering themselves in blue paint and having greasy, unpleasant sexual intercourse in motel rooms as they pant “oh, Neytiri” and “oh, Jake Sully” into each other’s faces. and for this, i blame James Cameron.
Quentzel said creating relationships with others is one of the keys to human happiness, and that even if those connections are occurring online they are better than nothing. “Obviously there is community building in these forums,” Quentzel said. “It may be technologically different from other community building, but it serves the same purpose.”
“internet communities aren’t as good as other communities, but are better than nothing.” huh. Quentzel, i am going to have to request that you turn in your fucking diploma and any other “psychiatrist credentials” you have, because this is just terrible. just … terrible.
replace some or all of these furries with furries pretending to be Na’vi and this is the kind of picture that will be on the internet in the near future
Within the fan community, suggestions for battling feelings of depression after seeing the movie include things like playing “Avatar” video games or downloading the movie soundtrack, in addition to encouraging members to relate to other people outside the virtual realm and to seek out positive and constructive activities.
it certainly sounds to me like some people who may, you know, WORK FOR TWENTIETH CENTURY-FOX are at work here. “depressed because Avatar isn’t real? BUY THE GAME. BUY THE SOUNDTRACK. uh… wait and then BUY THE BLU-RAY DVD.” and you know, i salute these hard-working sales professionals, who at least aren’t lying around their homes feeling sorry for themselves because they’re not 10-foot-tall cat-aliens who sound like Sam Worthington. or whoever. goddamnit, this is all so ridiculous.
advice for Avatar fanatics seeking positive and constructive activities: suck it the fuck up and acknowledge that you cannot live in a movie. please get on this right away. thanks in advance.